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Sender: "Dr. Don Beck"
Subject: Re: Is corrupt money in politics the ONE issue that can unite Americans?
Date: Tue, Mar 25, 2014
Msg: 100877
Thanks, Jim. "change" is indeed a complex matter, and hardly the simplistic behavior or even worse the humanism concept. You might check the work of both Professor Clare W. Graves and Muzafer Sherif who have a quite diffenent perspective. Sherif found differences based on levels of ego-involvement.
Graves: You cannot change people, all you can do is relate what you are doing to their natural motivational flow. Three windows:
Life Conditions which, when changed may release their capacities which have been hidden by circumstances and/or thier priorities Codes (biopsychosocial systems) impacted by genetics nd states of the organism, but thent the beliefs and behaviors coming from different priority codes...even evangelicals will support envioomental causes to keep God's Earth clear for the second coming. Lots of wiggle room. Change priority codes is the most difficult but we have tons of evidence from the South African experience over 54 trips to johannesburg, that demonstrate changebility beyond what we normally expect from the pre-modern, to the modern, to the post-modern and then to the Integral.. billions of people are passing through these sequences We have designed "Stratified Democracy" to show the different forms at different stages of human emergence.
sorry I am in such a hurry but I have promises to keep before I sleep.
Don
t 10:12 PM 3/24/2014, you wrote: >I like Michael Briand?s points, which I wrote in shortened form below > >On Mar 21, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Michael Briand wrote: > > I am inclined to the view that > transpartisanship in any meaningful sense is > unlikely in the absence of a transformation in > our most basic beliefs, the ones that are tied > closely to our self-conceptions and our > conceptions of the good and the right. If > these never change, then no important > transformation can occur.? I am deeply > skeptical that any of these (i.e. The > ?processes, strategies, and techniques of > dialogue ) has the potential to produce the > kind of deep transformative change that is needed ?. > > > For me, failure to provide a plausible > account of how our structures of belief, > attitude, disposition, and the like can be > altered in the face of powerful impediments > (affective, cognitive, social, cultural, > generational, and so on ad infinitum) greatly > diminishes the prospect that anything useful > will come of even the most sincere and > assiduous reciprocal efforts to reach out to > others who do not share one?s own outlook. > >I agree. ? I have in mind a different model of >change and different form of thinking to be >facilitated in people. ? I believe that >transformation happens when people face and >creatively overcome a crisis. Then structures of >belief, attitude, disposition and identity ? all >change. But with most forms of conversation? >like dialogue, deliberation, negotiation, >debate, etc. ?we ask people to self-manage and >to limit their expression of their feelings or >advocacy. In the Wisdom Council randomly >selected people face crises and unreservedly >express their feelings. Because Dynamic >Facilitation is used, their comments are >incorporated positively and the group achieves >win/win shifts and breakthroughs. Unity is a >natural result. And so are transformational changes to the people. > >--------------------- > >Jim Rough > >Center for Wise Democracy. | 360-385-7118 | jim@WiseDemocracy.org| >See www.WiseDemocracy.org > >############################ > >To unsubscribe from the TRANSPARTISAN list: >write to: mailto:TRANSPARTISAN-SIGNOFF-REQUEST@LISTS.THATAWAY.ORG >or click the following link: >http://lists.thataway.org/scripts/wa-THATAWAY.exe?SUBED1=TRANSPARTISAN&A=1
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