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Sender: John Backman
Subject: Re: transpartisan momentum
Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2015
Msg: 101166

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Strictly as an aside, I always wonder how they can sustain this belief given the existence of the New York State Legislature. I don't mean this cynically, but rather as an actual question, since New York's dysfunction can sometimes make the federal government seem a model of efficiency and civility.

John Backman

The Dialogue Venture

www.huffingtonpost.com/john-backman

Board member, NCDD

Author, Why Can't We Talk? Christian Wisdom on Dialogue as a Habit of the Heart (SkyLight Paths Publishing)

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From: Rickrad [mailto:rickrad@me.com] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:08 AM To: John Backman Cc: TRANSPARTISAN@LISTS.THATAWAY.ORG Subject: Re: [TRANSPARTISAN] transpartisan momentum

John Backman -- An example to how they are waking up to the transpartisan possibilities is that one of their core messages is that they believe state legislators can decide how to help people in their state better than the federal government can. Now this is *not* a "states' rights"-based argument... this is a question as to who can best pursue social justice (see attached handout for my take on this). So they are effectively saying "50 different dialogs about how best to help people is better than one dialog". The group has democratic sponsors in two states.

Jim Turner -- I've been to a number of their conference calls for state leaders and never heard them discuss the issue of re-balancing the money. I'm sure that will be a concern when it comes time to figure out the details, but it's not a top-level concern driving the movement right now.

- Rick Raddatz, http://IncentiveReform.org

On Jan 30, 2015, at 06:26 AM, John Backman wrote:

Thank you for bringing this up, Rick. Oddly (because I'm not conservative on many issues), something about this effort appeals to me. Maybe it's the novel (yet thoroughly constitutional) approach to revisiting the very roots of a worldview--i.e., small government for conservatives--and trying to align the government with that worldview. In my book, it beats the one-off threats of constitutional amendments on isolated, and often not amendment-worthy, issues.

One question for now: In what ways are they waking up to the transpartisan element in their work?

John Backman The Dialogue Venture www.huffingtonpost.com/john-backman Board member, NCDD Author, Why Can't We Talk? Christian Wisdom on Dialogue as a Habit of the Heart (SkyLight Paths Publishing)

-----Original Message----- From: List for transpartisan leaders and innovators [mailto:TRANSPARTISAN@LISTS.THATAWAY.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Raddatz Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:17 PM To: TRANSPARTISAN@LISTS.THATAWAY.ORG Subject: [TRANSPARTISAN] transpartisan momentum

Hello fellow transpartisans,

There's a movement you're going to be hearing more and more about called "convention of states". they have operations in 39 states, 430,000 supporters and growing fast.

Here's their website: http://ConventionOfStates.com

Right now, they are a completely right-dominated movement but here's what's interesting: the reform they are advocating has the potential to lead to transpartisan success and they are starting to wake up to that idea.

You see, what they want to do is leverage Article V of the U.S. Constitution to call a "convention of states" that will have the power to propose amendments that limit the size and scope of the federal government.

At first glance, this is a purely right-leaning reform. But consider this: it will be the state delegates coming together who make the proposals... And the states will not screw themselves... Just the opposite. The states have every incentive to not just limit the federal government, but also to bring that power home, without strings attached.

What's more, the any amendments the convention proposes will still ratification from 38 states, forcing transpartisan (or at list bipartisan) flavor.

So my prediction is they end up with something like cap-and-prioritize where the federal government is capped and the money for social spending is block-granted to the states without many strings, creating 50 different experiments for how best to prioritize (how best to govern).

Now how we leverage this, I don't know, but I thought I'd bring it up to the group.

- Rick Raddatz, http://IncentiveReform.org 303-720-9913

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